The sweet spot for me was the first time using the ZHPC dbol brand-40 mg ed. Pumps-minimal sides-were able to feel the product very early on through the roof. This is a clean, high-quality product equivalent to or better than any other dbol oral brands that I have used in the past. It's the real deal and the only dbol that I'm going to use to move forward. Overall , my experience with these guys was excellent from start to finish. Quick, quick comms, simple and succinct orders, high-quality equipment and fast domestic delivery. What else could you have requested? Plus, they were easy to cope with and had excellent rates. I put 2 new orders with this party-looking forward to the long term. I recommend them highly.