I have owned a pair of Karrimor Border shoes in more or less daily use for the past 5 years - only wanted to replace them with same now as tread a bit worn on these very well made & comfortable shoes. So I ordered 2 new pairs of Border shoes from Karrimor direct on net at a great price reduction. On arrival, both were in tatty boxes with screwed up tissue - so either been returned before or tried on many times in shop ( + minor dust marks from dirty floor ) but worst of all - very poor stitching on one pair - virtually torn or badly joined tongue . Not impressed at poor quality control or fact that dispatcher just chucked them in the bag without checking the contents. If I were running it someone would get a rocket.