Both bow ties were received in fine condition and order. Suggest that a less expensive type of packaging be used. There is no need for expensive cardboard when a softer and just as protective material will suffice. I don't understand the reasoning to place the tie inside cardboard then inside another layer of cardboard then the entire lot inside yet another cardboard box. Ties are not fragile and breakable items that need such protection. Hope you will notice that the industry is going to less heavy, expensive,structured and wasteful cardboard. The ties themselves were just OK. Nothing special in the way of fine material. I was only looking for the Art Deco design as was one of my choices .