Hi.as I have said before,I do not germinate them,merely send them to (gelato cookies and skywalker cookies and the freebies), this time,a friend in Thailand,who is trying to find the best cultiver/pheno from each pack of 10,and "clone the hell out of them". He has already had some success with the seed stockers "Girl Scout Cookies", and says the Dr Ray "Cheese",stinks,in a very nice way. When I write to him next,I will ask for photos,but he is a self confessed Newbee to growing cannabis,and ,3 + yrs in,has only managed to harvest 31 plants,across all the seeds I have sent him.(but he is getting better).Pete.