I think for a potential founder, some of the benefits really are the mentoring, the ability to really fine tune your pitch deck, and really learn the language of running a startup. The program really helped me reach beyond my comfort zones, dive into what it takes to be a founder, and run a startup. Walking through the process with them was just invaluable because what we brought to the table to where it is now is just night and day. If you're a founder, that's really trying to find direction, trying to find focus and want to get to a stage of maturity, I highly recommend Newchip.