bought my first pair over 7 years ago. Amazing quality, laced leather shoes (from a sadly discontinied line). Bought many more QUOCs over the years and all great but on my Grand Tourer II, I had to replace wire-lacing already twice. I fear it's a lesser quality copy of Bora system. I have a few original Bora system shoes for many years in hard use. Considering buying a pair of Grand Torer with traditional laces since the overall construction of the shoe is amazing incl the sole. Black toe-box shows scratches very quickly but that's purely cosmetic and material is very strong