Having, since 1979, with great pleasure & satisfaction, used; extold & recommended, Blacks of Greenock and/or Vango. This despite Vango Force ten 1 (wo)man far to small. 2 man far to big. They, have of late, gone to HELL. CON{(ned)demned}sumer service, after careLESS. Thank goodness for www.Temu replacement, Banshee poles. (Force Ten. Still good as was). Given which, they can't be bothered, I maybe shouldn't never, ever again, be bothered to re-purchase Vango. As has been advised as such on global business reviews. Whom I hope & trust, should post as such?