Its a con, Installer tells end user to go to Howdens. End user goes in to depot, Chooses a kitchen gets it measured and designed. Designer calls installer (account holder) and asks how much they would like adding on to the price of the kitchen (for themselves) Majority of time it is over a thousand pounds, designer then adds this on to the overall price. Installer gets the money placed on his account. If the end user asks Howdens for a breakdown of the price, Howdens say they can't supply it, as its on the installers account... Meaning you have no idea what your paying for. Its A Rip Off Britain Story If Ever There Was One. Andrew Livingston (CEO) Wake Up