I cannot say enough good things about these bib tights. Just completed my first double century with 5 hours of it in the rain. besides my own internal sweat these kept me warm and dry the entire time. Not only that, but not a single ounce of discomfort as the chamois is superb (no saddle sores and only minor chafing because I don't think there is any way to avoid that after being on the bike that long). The drop seat was just another added bonus as trying to navigate porta-potties without a drop seat is near impossible. LOVE these!