OMG....!! Please tell me why I’ve dragged my smelly, so called waterproof & ill fitting winter over trouser thingies - out of the smelly trunk every Winter - when I could’ve been slipping into these gorgeous & warm soft shell breeches !!!!!! Adore them, extremely comfy, toasty warm with out overheating (I am a lady of a certain age!!!) I was super “Smug as a bug” on my very chilly early morning ride. I’m no spring chicken or for that matter a size 8... but a very average 5’5” Size 10/12 ish!! The size 38 are a lovely fit...... P.s. also fab for walking the dog!!! ☺️