I got caught up in the marketing of the "pillow walk" nonsense. Was looking for work shoes as I'm on my feet all day and have been having a horrible time since the sauconys I've loved were discontinued. (I would have kept those forever but they got poison ivy in them, RIP.) Pillow-walk is nonense. I ordered these shoes in three sizes to make sure I got the right fit. The 8/5s were baggy, and the 8s were weirdly snug, but I wore them around my apartment for a few days then bit the bullet, returned the others and wore these in to work for a day. By the end of the day I'm in agony. They're horrible. These aren't leather shoes that need to be broken in, it's knit material with shock resistance that gives out around the four hour mark. I contacted customer service to explain the situation and ask if I could still return these and they said "no but we'll give you site credit!" I said "for more awful shoes? no thanks." Now I'm stuck with shoes worth about $12 and the hunt for shoes that can actually stand up to a full shift on my feet continues.